Hi Clif and community! When I am in a coalition I happen to be with a party with a name but with a very different ideology for example The Chinese Fascist Party (I have a mod that adds China) was democratic and liberal. Very strange! I think that when you start a game under the button for the color of the opposition parties there should be a button that opens the compass and that with the left mouse button can decide the ideology of the opposition parties. You do not need detailed even if it would be nice, in my opinion just insert the dot in one of the 4 windows.
It is very difficult and I know it, but it would be nice because it would better explain the “relationship” of the party’s name and ideology linked to the name. I certainly do not expect the Chinese Fascist Party to propose to lift media censorship …
See you later !!!
Party names doesn’t mean anything - its just text and nothing else.
but would you expect that for example the Communist Party would propose to eliminate or demise state industries? no. if the party is called dfghjfdghj then you are right but if it has an ideal in its name I would like that name to be respected …
Sorry it won’t happen, there is no reason to have party names mean anything
Currently those are very easy to add, as its just text, also what happens if you had exactly same ideology as your opposition party?
Or what about anarchofascist market communist party? That name would blow up Overton window and collapse it into blackhole
The idea about right clicking a party to view its ideology on the compass, that’s workable.
But if I want to have a center-right government, I don’t put the opposition from the right …
Perhaps there should be an option to rename the opposition once the game has begun, to give people a chance at roleplaying or having more realism.
Also for writing errors xD. But I think a compass would make things more realistic without operating later.
Well, maybe Cliff will come up with a little graph to represent political party position on the compass, like how you can right-click to view the effects of a policy on various indicators.
A lot of the time party or even country names really don’t mean anything. Go back far enough in American history and the Democrats were equivelant to modern Republicans. North Korea is technically “The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea,” which is an entirely useless name for context, and the far right party in Germany is called AFD, or Alternative for Germany, which again really doesn’t mean anything at all.
Party names don’t really need to mean anything.
Exactly, with this gagiunge I would give a meaning to the names
Well thats my point, in the real world party and country names don’t really mean anything, so why would they need to have meaning in the game? Anyways this wouldn’t really change gameplay in any meaningful way so I’m not sure if it should be implemented.
sincerely. would you expect a communist party or a communist alliance or a socialist-oriented party to propose to abolish or depreciate state ownership?
No, I would not expect that. That wasn’t really my point though. A parties name and its actions are really separate things. I just didn’t think the work of adding this in would be worth the probably minimal or even zero gain in player satisfaction.
Liberal Democrats of Brazil are far-right (their name is something similar), and the social democratic party of portugal is now centrist and socially conservative. Maybe there could be some correlation. Although, if we could see the position of a party by right-clicking on it, that would be pretty cool too.
Yeah being able to view the political compass positions of opposition parties would be a cool feature. Perhaps the player could shift their parties policies in order to “steal” voters from the other side?
Hmmm…yeah, as it currently stands, you can only approximate that by by seeing how pro or anti they are relative to you.
Tonight I thought about it and you’re right, maybe the name doesn’t make sense but choosing that x is from one ideology and y from another without correcting the name could be done.
In practice the name means nothing but I give an ideology to the party and not to the name.
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. And generally speaking, there is some correlation between party name and ideology. You would generally expect a communist party to be communist, atleast in theory, if not in action, for example. But maybe its limited by other factors, time, culture, etc.