Does any1 have blank / black / white squares / missing gfx?


#1

If you do, and especially if you have an intel video card, could you either email me the file 'drawdebug.txt" in the games ‘debugdata’ directory, or paste its contents into a post here?
Thanks (cliff AT positech.co.uk)


#2

I have this problem.

this is the contents of the file:

Initialising Direct Draw
Attempting fullscreen mode
Creating Context at 1024 768 32
Forcing Fallback Init
Attempting Fallback Init
Fallback init succeeded
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 (Microsoft Corporation) \ Microsoft Direct3D Hardware Transform and Lighting acceleration capable device
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Release D3DEngine
Redundant calls/frame = 0.000000
Engine already released


#3

Thanks that’s very interesting. it seems those cards are worse than I thought, they don’t even throw an error when they fail to load stuff in. grrrrrrrr.


#4

Ermmm … what should be in the drawdebug.txt file ?? :blush: :blush:


#5

pretty much exactly what’s in that post, which goes to show that when intel cards fail to load in some graphics, they don’t even report an error, which is massively frustrating. They have the worst video card drivers ever written.


#6

Okey dokey :open_mouth:

I have pretty (for want of a word !) much the same except :

Driver: Primary Display Driver \ Microsoft Direct3D Hardware Transform and Lighting acceleration capable device ... ... ... Redundant calls/frame = 0.053829

and taken from Kudos drawdebug.txt :

VidMem: 504 MB Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 rev: 161

and KRL debug.txt :

Clearing textured sprites

#7

you don’t have any missing textures though do you rocky?


#8

No, at least I don’t think so :confused:
If any are missing how would I know ??? :open_mouth: :angry:

I reckon whitesnake is using an earlier version. I couldn’t see publicist in his/her list.


#9

I’m sure you are on top of this, but my game is all jacked up. No background images during certain things, and no pictures of people.

Generally alot of white.

Initialising Direct Draw
Attempting fullscreen mode
Creating Context at 1024 768 32
Forcing Fallback Init
Attempting Fallback Init
Fallback init succeeded
Driver: Primary Display Driver \ Microsoft Direct3D Hardware Transform and Lighting acceleration capable device
VidMem: 28 MB
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Engine already released


#10

hmmm, this looks like a similar thing. a 28MB video card is probably onboard, and made by intel. I hate intel.


#11

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Engine already released


#12

how do i fix it?


#13

The bug is caused by older video cards not being able to use unusual size images, some older cards insist on all images being a ‘power of 2’ in dimensions, and many of the KRL textures are not. Unfortunately, there is no way to make it work with older cards right now.


#14

Here is mine:

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Release D3DEngine
Redundant calls/frame = 0.000000
Engine already released

PLEASE tell me how to fix it. I have absolutely LOVED the first part, and would really enjoy playing this, but now I cannot because of this error!


#15

Initialising Direct Draw
Attempting fullscreen mode
Creating Context at 1024 768 32
Forcing Fallback Init
Attempting Fallback Init
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Release D3DEngine
Redundant calls/frame = 0.000000
Engine already released


#16

thats copy/paste of my file… game worked fine till I reinstaled Windows OS… can you tell me how to fix it?


#17

It looks like windows has not detected your video card properly. You need to install the correct drivers for it:
positech.co.uk/support/videocards.html


#18

Has there been a fix for intel cards yet? I just updated it and the problems came with the update :frowning: When I do anything it shows all white background and sometimes the characters box goes all white. Makes it hard to see how much motivation or progress is actually happening when doing basicly anything. Also makes practicing a bit harder because the background doesnt stay.

Quiting and coming back seems to take care of it, although, im sure it will come back. I hate Intel…

I emailed you the drawdebug.txt for your enjoyment. Let me know if there is anything I can do to fix the problem.


#19

unfortunately its something Intel need to fix. I’m not the only dev who hates them for it :frowning: both IronLore and Epic games recently very publicly criticised the fact that Intel video cards just do not work properly. tbh I’m considering putting a warning on the next game I do saying that intel cards are not supported :frowning:.


#20

Don’t do it Cliffski, a crappy Intel graphics card is all I have… how else will I enjoy your delightful Rock Legend and Democracy games, hm? :frowning: