Question: where to post Democracy 4 / Democracy 3 DLC Ideas?

I am an office drone (an accountant, to be precise). I am also a news junkie, hobby anthropologist (it involves recording drag queen voices and getting paid by Nintendo to analyze character voices), easily amused, and LOVE Democracy 3 (vanilla, Africa, and mods!) so I’ve accumulated a huge list of ideas in downtime at work.

Where would one post ideas? I have a Word doc at the moment in outline format.

Also, I love the format of this forum. Props to whoever set it up!

Below is a crude attempt to copy+paste my brainstorming from a Word doc that included bullet points. Because I’m a new user, I needed to delete all the source links from this copy+paste.

Democracy 4 / Next Democracy 3 DLC Wishlist

  • Asia Expansion/Focus/Compatibility?
    • Interesting Examples:
      • Singapore
        • Super-urbanized
        • Rich but condensed; the government buys sand from other countries for land reclamation (although that’s really more… literal land building)
        • Very capitalistic
        • Tons of ethnic minorities
        • No real farming industry – there isn’t the space
        • Frankly, this would be a good “noob to the Democracy Series” country given how successful it is already?
      • Taiwan
        • this might get your game banned in China… although frankly, if it isn’t already banned, I’d be shocked!
        • You could join the elusive club of “Banned Games in China”!
        • You could also possibly join the club of “Banned People in China”!
      • Malaysia
        • A good “noobie starting country” for a developing nation
        • Government:
          • Yes, a democracy and not a “democracy”
          • It has an ELECTED MONARCHY! ELECTED!
          • Its current prime minister is over 90 years old and was elected – again. He was Prime
            Minister from 1981-2003, then “retired,” then was elected again in 2018 on an anti-
            corruption platform.
        • Politics:
          • Bumiputra & Malaysian New Economic Policy (NEP)
            • The Malaysian constitution recognizes special rights for native Malaysians and
              Borneans, called Bumiputras
              • Around 69% of the population
              • Anyone who is Muslim and speaks Malay can become Bumiputra
              • Certain Bornean indigenous groups also count as Bumiputra
              • Privileges include:
                • A 7% discount on all houses and property
                • Developers must prove they attempted to sell to Bumiputra before they can sell to
                  others
                • Quotas for admission to government universities & scholarships
                • Governmental positions
                • 30% Bumiputra ownership required to be listed on stock exchange
                • Mutual Funds with guaranteed profit
              • It’s basically reverse affirmative action
          • Corruption is a problem
            • The last prime minister stole billions from the pension fund, which is now broke
        • Economics:
          • Huge Chinese investment
            • Fears Malaysia is being colonized by China via investments that will become
              worthless & taking on Chinese debts they can’t repay without surrendering
              the
              investments back to China
              • Example: see Sri Lanka’s infamous Chinese infrastructure projects
          • Undocumented Migrant Worker Issues
        • Demographics:
          • ~55% are Muslim Malay Bumiputra
          • ~15% are non-Muslim Malay Bumiputra
          • Most of the ~15% are called Orang Asal (at 11% of total Malaysian population)
            • They are not majority-Muslim, however.
            • Many various indigenous groups of varying religions (Christianity, Islam, &
              Animist)
          • ~20% of Malay population is Han Chinese
          • ~7% of Malay population is Indian
          • A huge issue in Malaysia is the growth of undocumented migrant workers
            • Yes, Trump would have a real party with these guys
        • Economy:
        • Safety:
          • Citizens required to carry ID cards at all times
            • Hilariously, they’re called smart cards
        • Public Services:
          • Considered to have the best healthcare system in the developing world
      • Mongolia
        • Yes, it’s an actual democracy and not a “democracy”
        • For interesting info: see
        • For more interesting info: see
        • Demographics:
          • 30% of the population is nomadic (read: self-employed farmers) today
            • roam the countryside with goats/sheep on horses,
            • so farming policies might be different
            • also, this tradition’s causing serious desertification & loss of biodiversity
              • would a player clamp down on the traditional grazing way of life?
              • Or find an alternative – ban more harmful animals (goats) and instead only use
                traditional animals (yaks)?
                • Although this would reduce farmer income, as goats will eat almost anything and
                  yaks are pickier… and surely upset the farmers, too.
            • Waste disposal also isn’t a thing for nomads
          • Cattle outnumber people 15 to 1
          • Nearly 2/3rds of the population lives in gers today
            • These are tents from the Genghis Khan era
            • 90% of rural people & 60% of people in the Mongol capital live in yurts
            • So homelessness might not be an issue…?
            • However, gers don’t have central heating, and use coal/wood for heating in the cold, which, due to Mongolia’s climate, is very common
              • This causes serious indoor air pollution
          • Ethnicities: 96% Mongol, 4% Kazakh
          • Religions: 53% Buddhist, ~39% atheist, 3% Shamanistic, 3% Islam, 2% Christian other 1%
        • Transportation & Infrastructure:
          • It’s the most sparsely populated country in the world, and very hilly with steppes & plateaus everywhere
            • So infrastructure is a nightmare
            • Also, see LINK REMOVED B/C NEW USER for good transportation detail
            • Roads:
              • It only has ~5000 km of paved road IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY
              • Yes, 5000 km of paved road IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY
              • The remaining ~45000 km of road is dirt/gravel/sand
                • Tour guides regularly carry sand ladders to get their car out of the sand
              • AND IT’S OVER SIX TIMES THE SIZE OF THE ENTIRE UNITED KINGDOM
            • Busses:
              • It has bus service between major cities & for some smaller towns
              • Busses are used more than cars in the capital (where ~40% of the population lives)
              • Also, ~50% of total urban traffic in the capital is public transport
            • Rail:
              • Rail is huge for freight, less for public usage
                • 93% of freight
                • 43% of passenger turnover
            • Car Usage:
              • Traffic is a nightmare in the capital
              • Parking is also a nightmare
              • Car ownership is very low, though
                • As of 2008, only 105,000 vehicles were registered in all of Mongolia
            • Car Safety:
              • Drivers frequently put snorkels in their engines to help keep them clean
        • Environment:
          • See WIKIPEDIA LINK REMOVED ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN MONGOLIA
        • Economy:
          • Power:
            • 98% of power is from goal
          • Resources:
            • Rare Resources:
              • It has tons of various rare metals that it primarily exports to China
              • 60% of the mining is GOLD
              • So rare earth metals would be a non-issue
              • However, the mining industry has caused serious water pollution problems
            • Oil:
              • It also has lots of oil, on par with Argentina/UK, but isn’t really drilling any of it
          • GDP:
            • 22% mining
            • 16% agriculture
          • Notable black market problem
          • Notable corruption problem
      • Afghanistan
        • No explanation needed on why it’s interesting
      • Indonesia
        • It’s the largest Muslim-majority country (and Muslim-majority democracy) in the world
        • It’s also, well, a ton of islands – a literal bridge-building policy between peoples on different islands might be interesting
      • South Korea
      • Kyrgyzstan
        • yes, it’s a real country in Central Asia; Google it!
        • yes, it’s an actual democracy and not a “democracy”
          • The 2017 election was monitored by 773 international monitors from 59 countries and 44 international organizations
        • it’s a young one, beginning in 2010, and surrounded by dictators
        • also, it’s Kyrgyzstan… how many people think about Kyrgyzstan? Have you even heard of Kyrgyzstan?
          • For quick reference: WIKIPEDIA LINK ON KYRGYZSTANI ELECTIONS REMOVED
      • India
        • No explanation needed
      • Thailand
        • this might get your game banned in Thailand… but you can join Tropico 5 in the “banned in Thailand” club!
      • Philippines
        • No explanation needed
      • East Timor / Timor-Leste
        • 1.1 million people
          • Tons of these are ethnic groups
          • 97% are Catholic though
        • Horrid education (58% adult literacy in 2010)
        • Almost no government healthcare at $150 USD per person per year
        • One of the highest smoking rates in the world
        • Young but real democracy – started in 2002
          • How people vote when 42% aren’t literate though? Can’t say!
      • Note: b/c they’re self-explanatory in the popular mindset, I’m not including the Middle East even though it’s technically Asia. But technically Asian nations not here that might be interesting include:
        • Armenia
        • Georgia
          • Free publicity from politically-charged commenters!
          • “WHY DID/DIDN’T YOU INCLUDE ABKHAZIA AND SOUTH OSSETIA?!”
          • “WHY IS THIS COUNTRY IN THIS GAME”
        • Iraq
        • Israel
          • Free publicity from politically-charged commenters!
          • “WHY DID/DIDN’T YOU INCLUDE GAZA AND/OR JERUSALEM?!”
          • “WHY IS THIS COUNTRY IN THIS GAME”
        • Jordan
        • Lebanon
        • Turkey
          • It’s called Asia Minor for a reason!
        • Russia
          • Siberia’s in Asia!
        • The Maldives
  • Major Items
    • Include a “Stability” tracker
      • Instead of only losing from assassination, bankruptcy, or election loss, include a collapse of the government
        • Examples of Defeat:
          • Successful Military Coup
          • Separatist Uprising / Civil War
          • Inability to Govern (no one acknowledges government due to lack of power – see Somalia)
        • Factors in stability
          • Federal ability to influence policy nationwide
          • Power & satisfaction of the military
          • Power & satisfaction of armed militia groups (if any)
          • Power & satisfaction of separatist groups (if any)
          • Economic stability
          • Currency strength & control
    • Change up the voter types
      • Instead of farmers plus motorists vs. commuters, how about a simple Rural vs. Urban setup? Or Rural vs. Urban vs. Suburban? Similar to how Liberal vs. Conservative is a zero-sum game?
        • Urban folks aren’t big on driving – they’ll do it, but not much
        • Rural folks aren’t big on public transport b/c the stops are probably miles from their houses
        • Sometimes, Democracy 3 would end up with 40% farmers or something ridiculous like that while having 100% commuters
        • This would also help certain nations make more sense (see Singapore/Japan)
        • Additionally, certain infrastructure things would affect rural voters especially like:
          • Wind/solar power – rural folks LOVE wind & solar subsidies, as they can then convert worn-out farmland into power for a profit
          • Rail subsidies – traditionally great for small towns (subsidize train lines to run trains through rural areas), but if rail lines are EXPANDED, those farmers in the way….
          • Prison policies – in most countries, prisons are in rural areas (not exactly slightly tourist attractions), so funding/expanding prisons helps rural incomes & provides rural employment
          • Centralized Anything – if it’s not funded much, this’ll piss them off greatly, as it’d likely mean the nearest government health center / government office is many hours away; conversely, if funded very well, so every rural community has one, they’ll love it, as it’ll send good jobs to their area & likely provide a service they wouldn’t otherwise have
          • Mass Transit funding – these guys don’t do mass transit
          • Cheap cars – yay!
          • Land Usage Rights – who can use federal land, and for what purpose(s)?
      • Instead of farmers, have it be “Agriculturalists”?
        • To reflect some of the animal herding & fishing in Asia (see Mongolia post)
  • Minor Items
    • Random Events
      • Tsunamis
      • Local Sportsman Joins FIFA Board
      • World Cup Win
      • Island Dispute
      • Monsoon
    • Dilemmas
      • World Bank / IMF bailout
    • Policies
      • Invasive Species Control
        • Would make environmentalists very happy & farmers kinda happy
      • Foreign Species Entry Prevention
        • How hardcore does the country keep out foreign species?
          • Would make farmers very happy & environmentalists kinda at the expense of international trade if it’s hardcore
      • For Mongolia: Goat Tax / Goat Milk Tax
        • Impose a tax on goat herders
        • Effects:
          • Income based on # of farmers
          • Farmer happiness decreased
          • Tax evasion noticeably higher (lie about your goats)
          • Capitalist decrease b/c they hate taxes
          • Environmentalist happiness
          • Environment improves
      • For Mongolia: Return to Traditional Herdsmanship
        • Ban goats & other herd animals – yaks/horses only
        • Effects:
          • Farmer happiness decreased
          • Capitalist severely decreased
          • Self-employed membership decreases (these wandering, nomadic herdsmen aren’t working for McDonald’s….)
          • Farmer membership decreases
          • Environment improves
  • Quality of Life Items
    • Instead of preferred groups, donors have requested policy changes
      • Example: “Cut corporate tax by 5% and I will contribute X to your campaign”
      • Example 2: “Change abortion law to ‘life-threatened’ and I will contribute Y”
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I like some of your suggestions. I have some for a prospective Democracy 4:

Taxes

  • Allow us to set Corporate Tax rates for Small business, Medium business and Large business.
  • Allow us to set Income tax rates seperately for low-income, middle-income, and high-income citizens. Also, introduce the ability for us to increase the amount of tax brackets to 8/9/10 or reduce them down to 1/2/3.
  • Allow us to tax charities.

Welfare

  • Allow us to set different levels of support for different people, possibly setting it by how much the benefit is not just the cost to the Government.
  • Have more options when it comes to welfare.

Education, Health etc.

  • Allow us to have Dental and Mental health and be Public or Private.
  • Have subsidies that we can put on or take off that give money to Private Health Insurers.
  • Put in new measures of health, and allow it to get better and better over time or worsen.

Elections

  • Allow us to select whether we will take Corporate donations and other settings.
  • Have more than 2 parties where you have a parliament and you have to either have a majority, form a coalition, or you lose the election. Allow us to fight from the opposition or battle it out as a minor party. We should have to campaign. Opposition would give you powers to sometimes block, especially in the Senate if you controll that or there is a “Crossbench” you can make deals with. If you don’t have a majority in both houses of parliament you should have to amend legislation to appease the opposition.

Also, something I didn’t mention is that we should be able to legalise Medicinal Cannabis, and decriminalise Cannabis as well, and also allow pill testing.

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People who are illiterate in India vote with their thumbprints (next to the symbol of the party they want to vote for).

It might be similar in East Timor.